One of the most controversial topics in bodybuilding and in fitness is “The workout frequency”. Some say train each muscle group once a week, some say train each muscle group 2 times a week, some say train 6 days a week and some say train 4 days a week and so on…
And the next one is workout volume. The common words that you would hear in the gym are something like this.. Train 25 sets for your big muscles and 20 for your smaller muscles or sometimes you would hear, just train until you absolutely kill the muscle and so on…
For the new bodybuilding aspirants the workout routine of their favorite superstar is just the correct routine for them. They never seem to analyze or understand the volume and the frequency involved in their workout.
Let me be clear on one thing here, “WE NATURAL BODYBUILDERS” cannot follow the pros workout regiment. Let me explain why!!!!
Just pay attention to the following topics, you will know why.
Logic of growth:
Most of you might know but still I will explain the growth process. When we train in the gym, let us assume that I am doing bicep workout today. When I do my barbell curls, indirectly I just break the muscle tissue in the bicep region. After the workout when I eat enough protein with all the other macro-nutrients I send materials to my bicep to recover. When I recover I first repair the damage. And after the recovery I overcompensate the muscle tissue. When I repeat this, my bicep grows. Remember, growth does not take place at gym. It takes place while you rest.
Recovery ability:
The ability of a muscle to recover from a workout is called recovery ability. This is where the genetics plays a vital role. You would have read that Arnold trained each muscle twice a week. It was because his genetics were really good and was able to recover. The same is with most of the pros. If all of us had the same type of genetics then there won’t be any difference among the humans.
When Pros can train each muscle twice a week why not you?
The answer is simple. If you feel that your muscle recovers fully in two days, yes you can. But let us be practical here, We do not use huge amount of steroids to recover fast. These steroids just improve the bodies recovery ability, but with a lot of health hazards. So never try that. Never schedule a workout before you feel fully recovered.
Rational bodybuilding:
Now that you know about logic of growth and recovery ability, my job of explaining workout frequency and volume would be easy.
As you all know, we damage the muscle at gym and the growth occurs while we rest. So let us imagine the damage of muscle tissue as creating a hole on the muscle.
When we do a very intense set for a muscle, here we virtually create a small hole on the muscle (let us imagine damage to hole here for the sake of understanding).When we do another intense set for the same muscle, here we make the hole deeper. Another set and the hole gets still deeper. As I said earlier the growth process starts after the workout when we rest. So if the hole is very deep, all the protein that we take will be used up to fill the hole. But what about the overcompensation? Before the muscle fully recovers it would be more than a week. So our “go to gym” syndrome will kill the growth and we would train the same muscle again. So if you observe here, our progress is zero. This is the reason why most of the bodybuilders lack to make gains.
So what should you do?
Just try to be logical and rational about your workouts and your frequency. Train optimal, train no more than what is required to create a small hole onto the muscle. But remember lazy workouts are not going to help. What I mean here is just choose very minimal amount of exercises per body part and do several warm-ups and do one or may be two all out sets to failure. By reaching temporary failure of the local muscle you can be sure that you created that required damage to the muscle. In other words, the optimal damage. When you reach your failure, you not only damage the muscle but also induce the growth stimulus of your body’s growth mechanism. So when you rest and eat proper nutrition, you have no other option but to grow.
Now you would have understood about the volume of workout. There is one more important topic, the training frequency. Just make a practice of listening to your muscle. Don’t train when you feel that your muscle is not fully recovered. Take a day or two off. Believe me you wont loose your gains. Have you noticed that after a complete week or two of rest you always come back stronger to the gym. You are able to feel your muscle better during the workout!! This is because your muscle is fully recovered. So don’t go by the magic numbers specified in the magazines, listen to your muscle and train accordingly. You will make optimal gains.
The nutshell:
There is no magic number of sets or number of days you must train in a week. All you have to do is train each of your muscle with no more than what is required to induce the body’s growth mechanism and not train the same muscle until that muscle and its supporter muscles are fully recovered.
As of now, according to my recovery ability, I train each of my muscle 2 times a month. And I make it a point that I don’t train two continuous days, because I might not train at my optimum because of the previous days workout. The results are amazing. I gained about 10 pounds in the past 10 weeks. And I have increased my strength by 10% in all my lifts. So remember quality of the workouts gives you results, not the quantity of the workout.
This blog is a tribute to the legend, Late Mike Mentzer. He was the man who really introduced the High intensity training methodology and made the bodybuilding world think logically and rationally towards the workout.
That’s all folks. Train smart, think rational and gain fast.
most informative of all...
ReplyDeletehey it seems u work each muscle jus 2 times a month.. how come jus 2 times a month??so u work ur chest only twice for the whole month? wat u do the rest of days?
ReplyDeletei take rest and grow brother.
ReplyDeleteMuscle grown only with proper nutrition and rest after a good workout.
It really makes a lot of sense pal !!!
ReplyDeleteWhen ur muscles pain the next day ...is it an indication that ur muscles haven't recovered????
ReplyDeleteWhen the muscles that have been worked out, pains the very next day...is it an Indication that those muscles havent recovered?????
ReplyDelete@Chirag
ReplyDeleteHey bro,
The pain on the body part the very next day is an indicator that your nervous system has not recovered.
Muscle takes much more time to recover.. If you are not able to train a body part as intensively as the previous workout then your muscle has not recovered...
Muscle generally recovered in a weeks time and your nervous system in a day or two...
So training each muscle once a week or even once in 10 days can really solve the issue..
All the best buddy
hello sir
ReplyDeletesuch a nice article about recovery of mucels. Its really very helpful for me.
hi murli..
ReplyDeletemy problem is when i work one body part once in a week it pains ,when i work out again ...like i've done workout first time..
Hi Praveen,
ReplyDeleteIts quite common for many people to feel the pain when doing workout after some time....
But thats the key.. Only when your muscle recovers you will be able to damage it and stimulate it to growth.. And thats what happening in your case..
all the best
Hi Murali
ReplyDeleteI am trying to do six days a week intense workout program @ one muscle group.
The six muscle groups are
1. Chest
2. Back
3. Shoulders
4. Arms
5. Abs
6. Legs
I was doing them in this order Back-Abs-Chest-Arms-Legs-Shoulders, Monday to Saturday.
But after the Monday back workout I found hard to do the Abs as during chinups my Abs had a lot of stress. Also after a leg day, doing the lower abs excercise becomes difficult. On the other hand it is said that Back and Arms shold be spaced out as Back workout puts stress on arms as well.
What is the perfect order of repeating this cycle
Regards
Surya
hi surya,
ReplyDeleteThe new order looks great
you can actually train only for 6 days
something like this
shoulders
arms(triceps/biceps)
legs
back
chest/abs
1 or 2 days off
and again repeat cycle
cheers
hi murali,
ReplyDeletenice post...
not many body builders have a scientific mindset.. hats off...
well a reader posted the workout regime as..
shoulders
arms(triceps/biceps)
legs
back
chest/abs
thats 5 days.. each day a seperate body part..
now is it advisable that i train in this manner..
Monday - Shoulders
Tuesday - Triceps
Wednesday - Biceps
thursday - Legs
Friday - Back
Saturday - Chest/abs
here i split the arms workout in two seperate days..shall i follow this??
another query is that how many exercises shud b done per body part..
like for legs alone i know about 8 exrcises... shud i do all the 8??
Hi King,
ReplyDeleteI feel that unless your biceps and triceps are very lagging, you wont need a separate day for each. Training them together would be ideal.
But still the schedule is as good as the 5 day split.
For larger muscle groups like back and legs
4 exercises for back should be fine
2-3 for quadriceps
1-2 for hamstring
and so on
In general,
3-4 exercises per bodypart should be absolutely fine
But keep the goal of hitting all muscle fibers in minimal exercises selection bro
i do only three movements for my back workout
deadlifts,chinns, barbell rowing.
So think wisely and minimize the quantity and improve the quality of workout with minimal movements
cheers
Hi Murli,
ReplyDeleteI used to train each and every day but found i was lacking in energy and drained the full day...maybe ur split and rest thoery should help..i will try...can i do mon -chest/trieps,tuesday -rest,wed-back/biceps,thru-rest,fri-shoulders,sat and sunday-rest...
This i think should give ample rest to my trained workouts...could i do cardio kickboxing the remaining rest periods when i dont train my muscles???
Also most important question is do we still consume 1 grms protein thru whey and natyural sources even during non workout days???pls suggest and oblige..Thx in advance...
Hi Kaps,
ReplyDeleteI am really happy that you got the information that you needed from my blogs..
Your split looks good except the fact that you dont train your legs.... Legs are also an integral part of our body and helps in improving our natural testosterone levels naturally... So... start training your legs also..
regarding protein - keep your protein constant always.... 1g per pound.... increase your carbs on workout days and cut back on carbs on non workout days
cheers
Murli thanx for the vital information...I am dying to try the 2 body part a day with a day rest in between for muscle recovery[shall keep u posted regarding the progress made]....Do you think cardio or any form of martial arts can be done on non workout days to keep momentum going or u really think its best to rest completely on non workout days???
ReplyDeleteAlso regarding legs i have heard after 35 years[i am 37] legs should not be trained as it can lead to major complications of the back and joints...Pls enlighten?
yes i shall try to get 170 grms of whey protein [i take ON]...thx for everything...
Hi Kaps,
ReplyDeleteOh yeah you can do cardio on non training days bro... but see to that you do not over do anything...
People find odd reasons to escape from tough things... And my dear brother, squatting is the toughest exercises of them all... So to escape this people come up with great reasons and you got caught in one such thing...
any exercise if done wrong can cause injury... So just learn to do exercises in proper form and start hitting squats hard and heavy
I am happy that i was really able to help you...
cheers
Hello biglee,
ReplyDeletearnold asks us to train twice or even thrice/week for any body part i.e full body wkt in 3 days or 2 days and do for 6 days/week. he also says the time for recuperation is 48hrs (for almost all muscles
and fast twitch may not need that much)
some news was there that he had some nervous problems. is that true and is that due to this high intensity workout ?
I don't believe my eyes,biglee u r doing twice/month ? but those shud be thunderous really.
really amazing bro.
a natural bodybuilder can train each muscle group only once in 5 days or more based on his bodytype
ReplyDeletefor me training each muscle every week is fine as of now.. sometimes i train each muscle once in 5 days or sometimes in 10 days and so on....
arnold had genetical problems...
cheers
HI biglee,
ReplyDeleteim a gr8 fan of u , im very proud tat an INDIAN[a country wer science is applied no wer ] has sucha scientific thinking of bodybuilding.
i hav started my workouts 2weeks ago, this is my third gym, i mean i gav break 3times, all the time i did only for a month or so.n this time i hav got commited for one year, n this time im doin it seriously...
this is my workout schedule,
chest-biceps
legs-back
shoulder-triceps
i follow this schedule twice a week, n i feel comfortable in following this schedule, so wat i want to know is tat, is my muscle training correctly, n how to determine tat is my muscle totally recovered ???
Prajwal,
ReplyDeleteMay be you should train one on and one off - that is one daty weight training and one day complete rest... if you want do some 30 mins of cardio..
This way you will improve on your lifts and gain fast.
Remember you grow after a workout when you provide sufficient rest and nutrition
cheers
Hello Prajwal,
ReplyDeleteTry to do this
CHEST/TRICEPS
BACK/BICEPS
LEGS/SHOULDERS
YOU CAN DO THIS 3 TIMES PER WEEK or you can do a 4 day workout for that you have to separate legs and shoulders,try this workout you will gain..pakka...pls let me know if you want any exercises?
Mon
CHEST/BICEPS
TUE
BACK/BICEPS
WED
OFF
THUR
SHOULDER
FRI
LEGS
SAT AND SUN
OFF
whoop this was a very strenous week, i realised the mistake i did all these days, i implied the method as our favourite BIG LEE n SUNIL said, i.e alternate days workout, n BIG LEE u look like my brother(ofcourse only the face), so i listen to watever u say, n after starting working out as u adviced, i can feel myself within, i feel full enthu wen i enter the gym every 2nd day.....thnx a ton for ur advice......u r my idol BIG LEE.......plz reply to my other question in 'bodybuiding as science'
ReplyDeleteHi Murli
ReplyDeleteMany peple say that more reps with smal weights make good defenition for the body...Is there anythg lik that as I ve enough mass and i have to get more shape...what shud i do please help me...daily i am doing for 2 body parts..
deltoids and shoulders
lats and bice
chest and trice
do i ve to change my routine
please sugest me more reps or more weights
hi pokiri,
ReplyDeletecheck heavy weight or light weight section of the faq http://biglee-murali.blogspot.com/2008/05/frequently-asked-questions-faqs.html
your question is answered there
cheers