Ephedrine and Ephedrine based stacks

Author: Krishna
Location: USA

First off - Ephedrine or any alpha/beta agonist are dangerous compounds that should not be abused. They should NOT be used if proper research is not done. They have side effects and can potentially lead to a cardiac arrest if pre-existent conditions prevail.

I am not a doctor- so please dont take my advice - these are just opinions.



Ephidrine

Here is a quick breakdown of the ingredients and simple directions on how to use. I will also include a few links on where you can purchase these products and a few links to other threads. By no means will this be scientific, however, I will state what has worked for me and I hope others, who have experience with the ECY stack, post their opinions. This could be a simple Q&A

What is an ECY stack?
ECY stands for ephedrine HCL, yohimbine HCL and caffeine

Where can I find the ingredients for the ECY stack
* Ephedrine HCL can be found at the www.supplementkings.com - LoL this is my venture so its a shameless promotion :)
* Caffeine can be found at the www.supplementkings.com
* Yohimbine HCL, though not sold as a seperate ingredient, can be found as yohimbe at the www.supplementkings.com

What are the dosings/servings of the ECY stack?
If you are new to this, you will need to start at a basic level. Ideally, each serving will be:

* Ephedrine HCL: 25mg
* Caffeine: 200mg
* Yohimbine HCL: 5mg

The best (i.e. ideal) time to take it will be 30 minutes prior to a meal (preferably low carb) and/or 30 minutes prior to exercise. It should also be noted that yohimbine really isn't necessary to make this stack AMAZING. Ephedrine HCL and caffeine will do well. Many people will alternate ephedrine HCL and caffeine with yohimbine HCL with caffeine, as there is published material stating that the combination of ephedrine and yohimbine isn't wise. You can read up on it here

You should wait a few days before your increase your servings (assessing tolerance to the ingredients). In most cases, people will take 2-3 servings a day, with a few taking 4 servings a day and some whackos taking more then that :o. Each serving should be taken roughly 4 hours or more apart, and again, 30 minutes prior to a meal (preferably low carb) and/or exercise.


What pre-cautions should I take with the ECY stack?
Some basic pre-cautions include:

* Not surpassing 100mg ephedrine HCL in a 24 hour period
* Not surpassing 0.2mg/kg of bodyweight of yohimbine HCL (20mg for a 220lb person)
* Always watch for side-effects, including: increased blood pressure, heart palpitations, increased body temperature, et cetera.
* As caffeine is a diuretic, please drink plenty of fluids (i.e. water) daily.
This is a very basic thread regarding ECY. There are topics I have not touched, including other supplements to take with the ECY. Honestly, if you are a noobie taking this, stick to the basics.

Finally, please realize that these are supplements, they will NOT replace a proper diet and exercise program. They are used to 'supplement' it. Please use with caution and know ALL the side-effects of each ingredient.

This is intended for those 18 years and older

REASON WHY FAT LOSS STACKS DO NOT WORK!
1. People don't read the label.
"Take half of the dosage for the first week to access your tolerance level." So naturally they take 4 pills at once, and when they feel all messed up, they blame it on the pills. For many cycles, I have used the ECA stack without any side effects, and without even knowing it's there for the most part. Why? Because there's this thing called tolerance. This leads me to the second reason....
2. People are impatient.
I do 4 days on 1 pill, 4 days on 2, 4 days on 3, and the rest on 4. Then, at the end of the cycle, I do the reverse. I barely know it's there, and I'm very sensitive to stimulants. But for immediate satisfaction people will start out with too high of a dose. This will cause anyone to become jittery. Tolerance to the CNS effects build rather rapidly, but many of the fat burning effects remain. All the research has been done on long, consistent use - not popping 4 pills and expecting to lose 10 pounds.
3. People don't do the research.
So why, you ask, don't people KNOW about tolerance? Because they're taking something that they know nothing about. Most people think the only function of the ECA is to increase heart rate. So they think that if they're not speeding it's not working. ECA has many fat burning effects when taken the way I've described. But don't take my word for it; do some research!
4. People want something for nothing.
You hear many people complain that these products don't work. But ephedrine and caffeine are bar none the best legal fat burners, as evidenced by literally hundreds of studies and double-blind, placebo-controlled trials. If there's some mild side effects, so be it. You can't expect to lose fat rapidly without side effects! It's physically impossible. If a fat burner is completely comfortable, it's probably not doing anything. The reason these supps don't work for many? Because they don't do it in combination with a calorie deficit. A pill is not a substitute - you have to be willing to put the work in action.
5. People are stupid.
Heart attacks, palpitations, convulsions. It's right there on the label. It tells you that you shouldn't take it with certain medical conditions, and the dosage parameters. And you know what? Multiple controlled studies show no difference in the amount of these conditions in the normal population versus people who use ephedrine. It is perfectly safe taken within the limits. In this same vein are tons of media reports. Every single one says, "This person who took ephedrine had this problem." That doesn't mean jack shit compared to the controlled studies I describe. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a perfectly safe substance. But I think it's 99.999% safe when you follow the directions on the label.